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RendersKoen opened this issue Jan 15, 2025 · 4 comments
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Pseudonym > Agent #379

RendersKoen opened this issue Jan 15, 2025 · 4 comments
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@RendersKoen
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Hi everyone, is there a property that connects a Pseudonym to an Agent like a person?

Like the pseudonym Elvis Costello pointing to Declan McManus? Or is this not the intented use of Pseudonyms?

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tormodv commented Feb 9, 2025

#################################################################
#    Individuals
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###  http://www.ebu.ch/metadata/ontologies/ebucoreplus#SOMEPROGRAMME
ec:SOMEPROGRAMME rdf:type owl:NamedIndividual ,
                          ec:EditorialObject ;
                 ec:hasCreator ec:someInvolment ;
                 rdfs:label "1984"@en .


###  http://www.ebu.ch/metadata/ontologies/ebucoreplus#pseudonym
ec:pseudonym rdf:type owl:NamedIndividual ,
                      ec:Pseudonym ;
             rdfs:label "George Orwel" .


###  http://www.ebu.ch/metadata/ontologies/ebucoreplus#realName
ec:realName rdf:type owl:NamedIndividual ,
                     ec:Person ;
            rdfs:label "Eric Arthur Blair" .


###  http://www.ebu.ch/metadata/ontologies/ebucoreplus#someInvolment
ec:someInvolment rdf:type owl:NamedIndividual ,
                          ec:Involvement ;
                 ec:hasAgent ec:pseudonym ,
                             ec:realName .


The Person and Psaudonymclass have just the label to represent the propper name fields.

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@RendersKoen
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Hi Tormod, thank you!

So if i understand it right, the relation between a person's real name and its pseudonym is only established through concrete involvements in editorial objects?

That would imply that a persons real name should be added to every involvement, right?

@RendersKoen
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I found hasRelatedAgent in the dev version of EbuCorePlus. As it is defined, it should be possible to use this relationship to directly connect a pseudonym to an agent as
Pseudonym hasRelatedAgent only Agent
is defined as a subclass of Pseudonym.

However, the dcterms:description of hasRelatedAgent states

To associate a concept with an Agent (e.g. Person or Character).

which suggests that it is intended for skos:concepts, not for an Agent.

Am I wrong?

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RendersKoen commented Apr 27, 2025

Also, the inverse property isRelatedAgent feels counterintuitive to me, since I would suppose that it is reciprocal? If one thing is related to another, the inverse is also true, right?

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